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October 23, 2009

Kaylie Jones

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I first met Kaylie Jones in an elevator at the Ramada Inn in Wilkes Barre, Pa. We were both there for a writer’s conference at Wilkes University. Kaylie’s expression when she’s not smiling or angry or moved is always a sort of grin, probably owing to the jaw line that looks so similar to her famous father’s in old photographs, as if someone just told her a joke or she’s concocting a piece of fiction in her mind that keeps scrolling. And her eyes always seem to be searching in a friendly way, as if maybe the joke or the fiction might be about you at that particular moment. I think we made small talk in the elevator about what I don’t recall. I had no idea who she was.

Later that day, I recognized her standing next to Bonnie Culver, the head of the Creative Writing program at Wilkes. I was asking Bonnie about enrolling in the Master’s degree program that had yet to be launched. Bonnie introduced her as Kaylie Jones. I shook her hand.

“Oh, are you interested in enrolling in the program as well?” I asked her.

She smiled. Bonnie laughed. “This is Kaylie Jones. She’ll be one of our mentors. She’s a writer. A Soldier’s Daughter Never Cries? James Jones, the author of From Here to Eternity? This is his daughter.”

I reddened and started to sputter an apology, but Kaylie waved me off. “Forget it,” she said, putting me at ease. “How would you know?”

Kaylie is a unique combination of fiery passion for … well, not just for art but for everything she feels is right (that’s the New Yorker and the Parisian in her) and a sort of Midwestern genuineness, an honesty and a humanity I’m guessing must have come from her father.

With Kaylie, clarity and substance are infinitely more important than style and gaudiness. When you read her work that’s obvious. There are moments of breathtaking description (At night, for entertainment we ate psilocybin mushrooms and watched eighteen-wheelers speed across the distant landscape, the ghosts of their lights trailing behind them for miles like party streamers. I felt squashed between the earth and sky …) nestled in straightforward prose.

That’s what makes her a great teacher. She reels you in when she needs to and pulls no punches in doing so.

Those of us who have been fortunate enough to have Kaylie as an instructor are very loyal to her. That’s not simply because she devotes herself to your work – and she does. The great thing about the Wilkes program is the one-on-one attention you get from your mentors, they shepherd you through your work. But Kaylie always goes above and beyond. She wasn’t above calling me to chew me out if my work was heading in a direction she didn’t like. She was a cheerleader and a friend when things seemed at their blackest, a staunch realist who made me feel capable of reaching great heights with my work, but always with my feet firmly planted on solid ground. In other words, she made me grow.

“Don’t fall into the trap of thinking ‘who am I?’ or ‘who is ever going to care about this thing that someone like me wrote,’” she once told me, knowing full well that my own lack of confidence in my work is one of its greater failings.

We are also loyal to Kaylie because of who she is. She’s inspiring. She’s very down-to-earth and unpretentious. We sat and watched episodes of Lost together, and I’ve listened to her howl when my classmate and friend Dan Burda does one of his goofy impressions. She’s fiery in a way that’s sometimes frightening for me, a pretty average rural Pennsylvania guy. Watch her at a writer’s conference listening to publishers talk about the business – she gets pissed! When she doesn’t like something, whether its politics or poetry, she has no problems with telling you.

One of my earliest memories of her: One day, at a class at Wilkes, she referred to something in The Sun Also Rises. “You’ve all read it,” she assumed. Then she frowned. “How many of you have read it?” Only one or two of us raised our hands. She slapped the table and the voice of this woman, who until that point had seemed serene and smiling at the world, suddenly sharpened. “That’s not enough! If you want to be a serious writer you have to be serious about it. You have to read.” She glared at us.

Above clarity, Kaylie has always seemed to me to value truth. She seems to want honesty in writing above everything else. Recently, I read in her memoir Lies My Mother Never Told Me a line from a letter her father had written a publisher who wanted to censor his book. “Writing has to keep evolving into deeper honesty, like everything else, and you cannot stand on past precedent or theory and still evolve.”

I’m printing those words and putting them up by my computer.

Anyway … please send your questions. This is your chance to pick her brain.

October 7, 2009

The well

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Where do you get your inspiration?

Inspiration is like a well. I read that somewhere once. You draw from it, and sometimes when it’s really flowing well you can complete a project.

So where do you go to fill the well?

If you’re a writer, you read something, right? Well, what do you read? I have a stack of books to get through, everything from Stephen King to Dostoevsky. I’ve read a lot of first chapters, but nothing has really grabbed me recently.

See a movie? I used to draw inspiration from Hitchcock, I loved the intricate way he designed films, his innovation, his mis en scene, his humanity — but I’ve seen all of his great films about a hundred times. I need something new.

So help a brutha out. I don’t care what you do for a living, where do you go to get inspiration? What inspires you to do what you do? And please explain why it inspires you. Please don’t cop out and simply say “my family,” because if you mean “cause I gotta put food on the table” that’s what COMPELS you, not what inspires you.

Is there a painting? A quote? A movie? A book? Mike Schmidt’s 500th at Three Rivers? What can you go to that instills within you a desire to create? And why?

Is this thing on? Anybody out there?

October 6, 2009

A call for submissions (exercise 4)

This exercise is all about perspective. Think about something that happened to you, a story you can share. Can be anything. Now, tell that story from the point of view of a member of your family. Use that family member’s voice, all the idiosyncracies in how they talk, bring into play their attitudes, their likes and dislikes. Tell the story as they would tell it.

And try to keep it to 500 words. No big deal if you don’t, I’m grading on a curve.

Let’s get some more participation. Whether you’re an established writer or just want to play around with telling stories, this is your chance to put your work out there.

Reporter or writer?

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Back in the late 90s, when I was just starting out what’s turned into a 13-year career (so far, knock on wood) in journalism, I had a job interview for a reporter position at a relatively large metro daily. I won’t say which one, but it was a century old back then and today it doesn’t exist any more, having merged with the other daily in town years ago. At the interview, the managing editor said he didn’t have much time to talk to me. Then he lectured me for 20 minutes about his newspaper’s proud history and fine staff, asked me one question and then told me to leave some clips with his publisher’s secretary.

His question: “Are you a reporter, or are you a writer?”

I stared at his desk. Stacks of paper, a plant, no bling to speak of, miles of stained oak. No answers, either. “Uh, I guess I’m both,” I said.

“There’s a difference, you know.”

“Yes, I know.”

At the time, I thought I did. Bob Woodward, for example, used to have the rep of being a great gatherer of information, an expert at cultivating sources, a helluva REPORTER, but no William Shakespeare. Remember in All the President’s Men, some on the Washington Post staff wondered whether English was Bob’s first language? At the same time, I am today as I have always been moved by great journalism because of the writing. I’ve had the honor over the years to work with some talented reporters, columnists and even editors. I read The New Yorker regularly, not just for the fiction, but for the reporting, Seymour Hersh and the like. Some of the pieces by the reporters, feature writers and photographers at the York Daily Record, my new home, are breathtaking. However, I’ve read some pieces at other papers where the reporters got great information — you could tell they’d busted their asses — only the writing didn’t convey it well enough.

But none of it, good or bad, is fiction writing. Not just because fiction isn’t true. The fact of the matter is, in most respects, I wouldn’t call newspaper journalism creative nonfiction, either. There’s a gulf between newspaper journalism and creative writing. And while it’s possible to excel at both, being adept at one doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll do well with the other.

For me, the big difference has always been degree of distance. As a reporter, dealing in facts, you’re on the outside. Regardless of how great an interviewer you are, it is impossible for you to get inside your source’s head. You can observe and provide objective detail, and the discovery of those details and the dissemination of them is the essence of the art. But you can’t say “I” in journalism and mean anybody but yourself. In journalism you are an objective observer of something that cannot involve yourself (all debates about whether true objectivity exists aside).

As a fiction writer, and often as a creative nonfiction writer, the story doesn’t just involve you. It is you.

It’s a problem that’s plagued my writing and it’s difficult to overcome. Fiction writing is a totally different art form from journalism. The two are only related in terms of words. Sometimes in terms of narrative (there’s some really great narrative journalism out there). But in terms of voice, character, point of view — there is no relation.

I know there are a lot of writers who started out as, or became at one point or another, journalists. Hemingway. Steinbeck. Graham Greene. In A Moveable Feast, Hemingway speaks almost disparagingly of his journalism — it was something he had to do for the money. Instead, when he lived in Paris he was learning to be a fiction writer. I don’t share his disdain for journalism, but I do agree that the two are totally different art forms.

I used to think writing fiction meant reporting a story in your head. It’s more than that. It’s INHABITING a story in your head. It’s BECOMING your sources. I’ve been advised by writing instructors to forget everything I learned about journalism when writing fiction.

Writers? Reporters? I need some input here, folks. Am I right? How can you be both a journalist and a writer? Is the separation as stark as I believe it to be?

October 4, 2009

NEWS!: The James Jones Fellowship Contest is accepting entries

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The 17th Annual James Jones First Novel Fellowship will be awarded to an American author of a first novel-in-progress, in 2009, by the James Jones Literary Society. Novellas and collections of closely linked short stories may also be considered for the competition. First prize is $10,000. Details are here.

October 2, 2009

Interview: Marlon James

MarlonThis is the first of what I hope will be many interviews with authors. Thanks everyone who submitted questions. The answers are below. If you have followups, let me know and I’ll see that Marlon gets them. And thank you, Marlon!

Marlon James was born in Kingston, Jamaica , in 1970.  His first novel, John Crow’s Devil, was a finalist for the Los Angeles Times Book Prize, The Commonwealth Writers Prize and was a New York Times Editors’ Choice. His latest novel, The Book of Night Women was published in 2008.


This is from Susan in York, PA: How are you able to maintain such a strong voice through his Book of Night Women. The language and the way your narrator spoke had really great rhythm and immediately gave you a sense of time and place…but I can’t imagine trying to write an entire book that kept that going. How are you able to get yourself into that mindset when you sat down to write?

I think it’s an act of will. I think you have to shut off anything connected to how you live now, right down to not using words such as, “sped” because that’s connected to a concept of movement that would have been unfamiliar back then. Sometimes we think the trick to staying in character when that person is unfamiliar is to dive into tons of research for speech patterns, cultural eccentricities or whatever, and while that’s important, you can learn every single detail about a character and still fail spectacularly—John Updike’s Terrorist being a case in point. In trying to learn all the external things about his title character he missed everything that makes a character human: empathy in the author and a chance to change in the character. Start with that first. Accurate dialect, correct historical details and finishing touches will come later.


From Scott in York: How does do you go from idea to beginning to execute that idea? Do you outline (characters, plot, etc)? Or do just start to write and see what happens?

Both. I have a basic outline just to get my thoughts together, and then just as soon violate it as often as possible. It’s the act of writing that leads you to what you really want to write. This is where outlining or even research can fail you. It’s like driving at night; you can only see far, but if you don’t drive, you’ll never get to where you want to go.


From Joan in York: What is your favorite piece of classic literature?

Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice. There are tributes, homage and shameless rip-offs of that novel all over my new book.


What made you want to become a writer? When did you first decide it was what you wanted to do?

I can’t remember when I wasn’t writing. But taking it seriously was another thing entirely. It was 1998 and I had just read Shame. I was so outraged and impressed by the liberties he took with that book that I said, that’s it. I’m going to write, and I’m going to write exactly what I want to write instead of what I think people would want to read.


You’re a fan of Latin American literature (I know you loved The Savage Detectives and you always go on and on about Marquez). What do you feel are the big differences between modern Latin American fiction and American fiction today?

In the late sixties with John Barth declared the end of narrative, I don’t think he ever told us what was supposed to take its place. One of the main differences between the Latin American Fiction I’ve read and other types is that even the most avant- garde Latin fiction knows that something has to happen. And that thing that happens must have stakes beyond suburban ennui or little epiphanies that can sometimes seem unearned. It’s not about magical realism, because even the most magical of writers are still telling you what’s going on outside their window. But perhaps Latin American fiction even at its most inward looking never becomes self-absorbed. Never falls in love with the writing of itself.


Where did the idea for Book of Night Women come from?

From a discussion with the poet Rashida Abu Bakr. I had a story already about a female slave protagonist, and a rebellion. I had even written 43 pages, but the idea of a group of women replicating the traditional matriarchal African society and taking it down a dark turn would never have happen had Rashida not showed me the ways in which women left their impact on African society. I remember wondering, what if a bunch of women tried to set up that power core here? What would be the cost?


Do you usually start with character, situation or narrative?

Characters have a way of showing up in my head and not leaving until I write them into something. There are these albino twins that have been badgering me for a story for years.


You ran your own advertising business in Kingston while you wrote much of both of your novels. How the hell did you find the time?

You have to make the time. It’s ludicrous when people say they don’t have time to write. You may be a person that writes, but you’re not a writer. This may sound harsh but your writing talent (or muse) couldn’t care less if you have three kids and your first quarter report is due. Or that you just lost a parent or are expecting a child. It’s a demanding, remorseless, unreasonable talent and it will not be denied. You simply have to make the time or steal the time. We’re probably not as busy as we think. Wake up earlier, or go to sleep later, or get rid of the TV. Nancy Mckinley said that once your muse is convinced that you’re serious, she’d show up. But first you have to be serious. It’s just not a talent that you can tend to like a garden. It demands too much of your time and something might end up suffering. This is where you have decide. Sure you may have talent, but how badly do you want it?


How did you decide on the POV for Book of Night Women?

It decided itself. I had written it in the third person in Standard English and got no further than page 43. I knew the novel would not move one page further until the voice that was supposed to tell the story told it, but even then I was held back by fear. Who the hell was going to read a 417 page novel all in slave dialect?


You start John Crow’s Devil with a quote from Captain Beefheart. Do you listen to music as you write? What kind? Does it affect the finished product?

I have no idea. I don’t trust silence, and I don’t believe in it. I love when a line slips in when I least expect it to. John Crow’s Devil could not have happened without me listening to 16 Horsepower’s Secret South constantly. So much of that novel’s biblical vocabulary came from that album making those word flesh. Of course I can’t listen to that album now.


This is a site for aspiring writers. What advice do you have for writers who have yet to achieve publishing success?

A clichéd but important one. Believe in yourself. Because if you are a writer, you will come to a point, more than once, when you’re the only person who does.

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